Henry Newman Talks Data, Coaching, and Innovation in Betting
In Episode 243 of the Knup Sports Show, Ryan Knuppel is joined by Henry Newman, CEO of Sporting Risk, to discuss his incredible journey from Premier League coaching to betting tech innovation. Broadcasting from London, Henry shares how his background in football coaching and mathematics laid the foundation for building predictive models that power modern player prop betting markets.
From the Pitch to Predictive Models
Henry opens up about his early passion for football coaching, which led to roles at the professional level — including a stint as a first-team coach at West Ham. That hands-on experience gave him a deep understanding of data’s role in team performance and player evaluation. Eventually, Henry transitioned from pitch-side strategy to building sophisticated models for betting using detailed in-game data, launching Sporting Risk to bring those models to life at scale.
Sporting Risk’s Approach to Modern Sports Betting
Sporting Risk focuses on predicting match and player outcomes with high precision, using granular event data across soccer and expanding into multi-sport coverage. Henry shares how Sporting Risk is creating innovative products like real-time micro markets, player performance head-to-heads, and automated bet prompts driven by AI. They’re not just offering odds — they’re transforming how sportsbooks and bettors engage with player markets.
Harnessing AI and Scaling Smartly
The discussion dives deep into how Sporting Risk integrates AI — not for generic automation, but to enhance internal operations, surface unique insights, and generate dynamic betting markets. Henry also reflects on the challenges of bootstrapping a business and explains how they’ve grown client relationships with both operators and forward-thinking media companies entering the betting space.
Looking Ahead: Multi-Sport Expansion and Industry Trends
Looking into 2025, Henry shares Sporting Risk’s expansion plans into new sports like basketball and the company’s vision to sit at the intersection of content, data, and predictive power. Whether it’s micro markets, AI-assisted automation, or new client verticals, Sporting Risk is doubling down on enhancing the user experience with timely, dynamic, and accurate betting tools.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone in the iGaming, sportsbook, or sports data space who wants to hear from someone that’s lived both the coaching grind and the data revolution. Tune in to learn more about the evolution of betting markets and the exciting future Sporting Risk is shaping.
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Full Transcript for This Show
[Ryan Knuppel]
Hey, hey, hey, what’s going on everybody? Ryan Neupel here. Episode 243 of the New Sports Show.
Hope you’re all doing well today. Everything’s well here in Orlando, Florida. I just got back from SBC a couple weeks ago.
And man, what a show. What a great show that was. Hopefully you enjoyed it if you were there as well.
I really appreciate everybody stopping by, saying hello to me as well. Always fun to talk to people in the industry that we kind of connect with virtually all the time. So that was very, very nice.
And being in my backyard of Florida, that was amazing as well. Today we have another awesome guest. I’m excited to dive into our guest today and kind of learn a little bit about him, learn about what he’s up to.
So without further ado, we’re going to go ahead and bring on our guest today. Today we have Henry Newman of Sporting Risk. Henry Newman, how are you, my friend?
Ryan, I’m great, thanks.
[Henry Newman]
Although it was probably a little better about 30 seconds ago before I saw that picture of me that had a better hairline from two or three years ago than what I do now. Clearly from LinkedIn. False advertising out there, obviously.
[Ryan Knuppel]
And you know what? We make it simple. We grab whatever we can on LinkedIn.
That’s what we use. So you better keep up with your LinkedIn.
[Henry Newman]
I had a look at that and I was just like, who’s that handsome chap? Because he looks somewhat different to us there now. But there we are.
[Ryan Knuppel]
I love it. I love it. Well, Henry, thanks for coming on.
I appreciate it. Where are you residing these days?
[Henry Newman]
So I live in London and conveniently 15 minutes away from our office, which is also in London as well. So, yeah, I spend most of my time around this neck of the woods right in the center.
[Ryan Knuppel]
That’s awesome. And you said you made it to SBC Americas as well. How did you like Florida?
How do you like Fort Lauderdale, Miami area?
[Henry Newman]
Yeah, a great time. I was out there. It was sort of in on the Monday, out on the Friday.
But I had a really good four days. It’s my first time to Fort Lauderdale. I’ve been out to Miami a couple of times.
But yeah, first time up to Fort Lauderdale. So got a bit of all sides of America, the beautiful port sides just there as well. And then some of the beachfront bars as well.
And I suppose a little bit of work occasionally. But yeah, I had a nice few days.
[Ryan Knuppel]
We mix in the work a little, don’t we? We try to get a few things accomplished each day. Yeah, just a couple.
And then enjoy yourself after that.
[Henry Newman]
It’s not a bad philosophy to have.
[Ryan Knuppel]
Awesome. Well, cool. Well, I appreciate you coming on here.
Like we always do with all of our guests, I want to hear about you first. Kind of give us a background of your career and kind of what led you to what you’re doing today with Sporting Risk.
[Henry Newman]
Yeah, a bit of a bit of a sort of strange journey, actually. So I’m actually from a maths background. So I was always enjoyed mathematical problems, economics, et cetera.
But my deep passion outside of that was coaching football. So I spent the first 10 years or so of professional career, if you like, coaching football, which built up into various professional levels, some lower league. Most recently, first team coach at West Ham last season in the Premier League, which was great.
And alongside all of that, you get exposure, particularly as you go up the levels. You’ve got exposure to different ways that you can do your job better. And one of those big components was data, how you can use it to understand the value a player might bring to your team, how you can use it to understand actually how your team’s performing.
Did we get lucky this weekend or did we outperform the team and get unlucky? And so I started to use that, interpret some of that for my coaching and then indirectly got introduced to also how it could be used from a betting perspective. So I spent a few years then betting proprietary, if you like, for myself and started to build up a quant team that was driving the predictive modelling that we were utilising to then build those models that we were using to find an edge in the market.
And that was generally using the most granular data you could get your hands on. So understanding every single action that occurred on the field, where it occurred, the time it occurred, which player had done it, what was the success of the outcome of it? So there was no limitation in terms of understanding what’s the value of everything everybody’s doing on here to then be able to build that up into a, right, which team do you think is going to win and how many goals do you think there’s going to be in the game?
So I did that for a few years and then basically had a bit of an urge to try and build a business, if you like, rather than just betting. And so about two and a half, just two and a half years ago exactly, the player prop market in the betting space was booming or emerging, if you like, probably close to booming now. And our modelling was just perfectly suited to being able to then turn that into player based betting markets because we had all the data and the modelling outputs to understand the value of every single action that was going on.
But also then the frequency of occurrence of those actions per game based on team style, team supremacy, etc. We could then turn that into betting markets. And so it sort of fitted quite nicely to start back in the beginning of 2023, start sort of dipping our toes into the betting space with that.
And yeah, we just sort of expanded from there. You just go where it takes your fancy or where your clients say they want to go, you know, no strict pathway, must do this, must do that, just be dynamic, make sure it’s fun, do stuff, you know, get yourself on rev share deals so you’ve got a bit of the action as well and things like that. And yeah, so it’s been good fun the last couple of years.
[Ryan Knuppel]
You know, not everyone’s journey, I can connect the dots, but I can connect the dots with your journey, which is kind of cool, you know, going from coach to, you know, professional betting and then now owning a business in that same space, you know, where you’re kind of building on learning and experiences and all the above. So I can connect the dots there. My question for you, do you miss coaching?
Obviously coaching at that high of a level you had to have had such a must have been really good at it, obviously. Do you miss it?
[Henry Newman]
Yeah, so I miss, there are some bits where when you’re just out on the grass, delivering a coaching session, and it’s 11 o’clock in the morning, the sun’s shining, you know, everybody else is stuck in the office, you’re like, this is great. This is 10 times better than it actually is as well just knowing what everybody else is going through elsewhere. So there’s that part of it that you do.
There’s other parts of it where you’re, I mean, from my perspective, I like, I like to run things. That’s just, that’s just how I deem. And so when you’re not the boss, it’s like you have all the same challenges that you do have in a working environment where you’ve got line managers, you’ve got reporting, you’ve got structures that you’ve got to adhere to, that you might not agree with and things like that.
So purely from a personal perspective, there’s a component of owning something, regardless of what field you’re in, I think gives me more enjoyment. And, you know, as well with coaching players, you know, everybody has to deal with people, you know, in working places, there’s people, there’s some great people, there’s some less great people. It’s no different in football as well.
You’ve got, you know, while it might be a great, great fun what you’re doing, ultimately, you’ve still got to make sure that not just 11, but 22 players want to run around in the same direction, somehow doing something cohesive to what’s been asked of them. And if a few of them don’t want to do that, because they’ve got a hump about something or whatever, it sort of breaks it apart. So the sort of environmental dynamics, if you like, of that is probably something that maybe I don’t miss quite so, shall we say.
[Ryan Knuppel]
So it’s a love and hate. It’s a we miss a little miss, don’t miss some things. Yeah, I get it.
Well, let’s dive into sporting risk. So what you’re up to today, why don’t we, why don’t we pull up the website? Why don’t you just at a high level, tell the audience what you guys are up to with sporting risk, talk about the products and kind of everything that you’re doing within the company?
[Henry Newman]
Yeah, so listen, from a listing every product perspective, the website won’t necessarily have all of that, but it’ll have a good, it’ll give you a good understanding in terms of, you know, the principles, you know, ultimately, what are we doing as a business, we’re trying to predict, predict outcomes in games of games of soccer right now. But that’s expected extending into multi sports, which the website will show. And what’s that?
How’s that sort of manifesting itself into what we’re bringing to the space? Well, we’re trying to offer as broader coverage from a competition level and depth of market level across the board for player based betting markets as possible. And then that’s now extending into trying to be creative, innovative with what we’re offering, whether it be creating some new head to head betting markets, taking micro markets onto a new level, whereby it’s not just one minute, five minute, 10 minute markets, but also looking at sort of next to do something, the next type of shot that will something happen in a specific time, time period.
So, you know, that’s in terms of how we’ve tried to position ourselves. After the first, I’m sure you can get a feel for it’s like the first year you’re, you’re scrambling about making sure your product is stable, everything’s working, keeping your clients happy as best you can. Year two, you take a breath, and you start to think about, okay, how can we actually, you know, where’s our space?
Where do we want to be? And we sort of set ourselves out to think that you’ve got the big boys who are operating in the data rights space and things like that. We’re there like, okay, so they’re going to go in and win the top deals, they’re going to be dealing with your tier ones, they’re going to be providing, giving the data rights, giving you one to X total match gold services, data service, etc.
Then you’ve got this whole engagement piece, if you like, that sits beneath that on the sports book, which is becoming so much more prominent, because consumers in every walk of life, which is demanding more now, whatever they whatever they had, they just want more of it. And because of that, we’re then looking at in how can we sit in that space, where all those all that content engagement that we’ve got, how can we extend that out to try and make that piece as engaging as possible. So not just offering player based betting markets, but what how can we turn them into some other cool engaging markets and head to head markets.
One of the things that we first started creating before we got into the player prop space was actually also creating, utilizing AI to query our database to then be able to generate automated sentences that was referencing the data to trigger bet prompts. So initially, we wanted to offer that solely as bet prompts. But now we’ve turned that into actually those data points triggering the creation of markets.
So we’ve got this dynamic market creation engine in play, this essentially is picking up either newly created markets or existing markets, but bringing them to sort of frontline retail, you know, the prominent retail space on the on the on the operators front end to say, you want to bet on this market, and this is why. So that’s where we’ve really been focused on, you know, there’s all sorts of components that, you know, that can link into the bet builder offering that we’ve got, or just the just the sort of raw, raw player based betting markets. So that’s sort of, and so, you know, as you’ll know, from my background that up until a few months ago was soccer.
Because that was my background, my passion, that’s where it was natural for us to us to go into. But now I’m looking at it and thinking, well, we’ve got a structure in place for soccer, in terms of what works from an internal ecosystem, but also from a product portfolio perspective on what’s outbound, if you like customer facing. So there’s, you know, opportunities to recreate that in multi sports.
And it’s not just, yes, of course, where’s our eye, obviously, on the main US sports, but it’s also looking at where are the emerging ones, where are the up and coming ones where there’s a big edge to be had as well, which might be a lowish turnover, lowish handle now for the operator, but it’s their fastest growing or their top three or four fastest growing. So we’re it’s it makes them makes the recruitment of personnel more difficult, because obviously, you’re looking at slightly more niche sports there. And you want you want people who have, you don’t want people whose opinions are biased.
And so it clouds their judgment from a data science perspective, because ultimately, the data must do the talking. But you also want people who’ve got little bits of little bits of how, what you can bring to the table if you’ve got some expertise about the sport. So the number of times I’ll have the conversations with our quants, on the soccer basis, and be talking about how, you know, dynamics in terms of mindsets of players will be changing at different scorelines and things like that.
And, you know, what, why that why the data might be saying that to help them understand it better, and then take it to the next level, so they can go deeper on their modelling and go and really understand what the data is telling them, rather than just going, Oh, well, that’s what it says. So that’s what it says. So, you know, we need to do that across every sport, because we’ve got a you want to deliver.
You want to deliver that level of standard of products across across the board. So that’s a challenge for us. But, you know, one that we know we can we can overcome and it’ll be exciting as well.
[Ryan Knuppel]
So what are some of the brands or some of the clients that you might serve? I mean, are you serving operators? Are you serving, you know, media companies?
Who’s your who’s your perfect partner to work with?
[Henry Newman]
First and foremost, well, main clients are operators. That’s like 90-95% of our revenue stream. Perfect partner, probably, it would be one that is media background, but coming into the operating space.
There’s a few out there because they realise that, you know, we’re commercialising our revenues, we’ve got this massive user base, who’s reading all of our articles, they’re engaged with us, they’re following the games live with our commentary tools or whatever. And what do people want to do? They want to have a bet.
So to translate that, so because if we’re partnered with one of those types of customers, we’re able to dovetail that content engagement, those bet prompts that I talked about with them, the betting market creation and try and bring the two together. So that’s probably, you know, somebody who’s really, really invested in committing to that space would be probably our perfect partner. But the operators obviously on their own aren’t far behind.
[Ryan Knuppel]
That was kind of a trick question. Are there really such things as a perfect partner? I don’t know.
That may not have been the right word. But you actually answered it amazingly. So yeah, thank you for that.
But okay, I’m gonna go a little different direction now. So you brought up that you guys are using AI a little bit. Obviously, AI is all over the buzzword of the year, right?
With where is AI going? And how are people using it? I’d love to get your thoughts on, you kind of talked about how you’re using it, but how much are you going to be using it in the future?
Is it gonna be a big part of your business? Are you integrating it into your business processes and into your product? Just talk a little bit about AI, how it applies to your business?
[Henry Newman]
Yeah, so first of all, there’s a couple of things in terms of understanding. I’m no absolute AI expert by any stretch of the imagination. So I’m not certainly going to sit here and talk about it like I am.
But even though it is part of our business processes, I’ve got an understanding with regards to what it can do for us and also what it can’t do. And so what can it do at the moment for us, which I alluded to for the back prompts, is it can look at historical pieces of information that are available in high sample size, be able to query all of that, you know, all the available information that’s there and bring the most relevant points to the fore based on the user quote unquote instruction. So that could be you or me typing something into chat GBT, or that could be some data that’s been coded or data that’s been input that says, there’s just been two shots on target in the space of five minutes, go and find me the most like the likelihood about when the third one’s going to happen.
You know, what time period will the third one happen? Yeah, we can just look at every single game of football that it’s got there, pick the most relevant games of football, as long as the sample size is big enough, and then bring bring back a piece of information that’s interesting to the four that would have taken otherwise, probably me a day to find coding capabilities, which is pretty, pretty low. So, from that perspective, it’s got real relevance from the modeling perspective in terms of the actual predictive modeling, less so right now.
And it’s not solved that piece if you like in terms of actually being able to provide predictive enhancements on existing modeling processes can provide suggestions, again, based off of historical data, which has a part to play. In any modeling process, but you don’t want to drive predictive model solely off historical data, because you’ll be behind. You need a big reference, you need to reference it, but then you also need the code, you need the different modeling principles and techniques that are going to actually turn that into predicting the future, ultimately, because you’re trying to trying to find an edge, if everyone could just do off the historical data, there’d be pretty much no real edge to be had.
So what we’re then looking at is then right, from my perspective, if you’ve got three components to our business, we’ve got the ops, you’ve then got all the reference points of historical information that we use to input into our products, then you’ve got a predictive component. So how can we optimize? How can we use IA to optimize our operational procedures?
So we’re looking at that. And again, we’re probably only 5%, not even that into it. But we’re trying to, we’re trying to look at that from the descriptive in terms of being able to query our database from a descriptive perspective and bring those crucial pieces to the fore with further along on that front, which is again, ultimately, it’s a data ops, you know, time saving perspective that we’re looking at that we’re looking at there.
We’re also using it for some cool, like, again, going out to source pieces of information that are there in the sort of public domain, whether it be finding team lineups from some obscure competition going on out in Asia, where you can, you know, set agents up to be able to go and search looking for keywords to find the website, they’re going to be first with the lineups, because that’s really important for operators, because they want to know as soon as the lineups come out, because they want to close all the markets of the players that are there. That aren’t playing, and obviously bring to the fore all the markets that are the players that are playing. So, you know, using that type of sort of cool, sophisticated logic, which again, AI agents can can help you with and would take the human a long time to do is really valuable, where we’re not where we’re not yet and not particularly including in is in the predictive, the modeling component of what we’re doing.
So that’s sort of where we’re at. And what we know, the my big belief is that it’s not AI is not going to replace what humans do AI will only replace what humans do if the human is not looking at AI and thinking, how can I optimize this, you’ve got a human who can optimize the use of AI that is always more advantageous than AI on its own. I always used to say, when I have friends always talking to me about football coaching.
They said to me, you know, when I started coaching, did you play? I said, yeah, terribly. But definitely not to any professional standard.
And they said, Well, did you need to play? So I didn’t need to play? No.
But I’m also not one of these people that says I could just be a coach. And if, if you’ve played, and you can translate that into coaching, that is the number one best position to be in, because you’ve got the playing experience, and you’ve got the teaching and learning experience, you bring those two together, that’s great. I don’t have the playing experience.
So I’ve got the I’ve just got to optimize as best I can my teaching skills, my learning skills, my environmental skills, etc, etc. It’s not dissimilar with AI. It’s like, yeah, no, you can use AI on its own, like me as a coach who’s not played, I can use that on its own.
And you could do it really well. But there’s always if you’ve got the if you’ve got the person there, with the experience, who’s taking the time to hone their skills on it, and then they’re using maximizing it, that’s going to give you better, better value add. So it’s just about, it’s just giving yourself the time to do it.
And again, I repeat, I’m not talking like I’m, you know, I’m not giving myself anywhere near enough time, I’m trying to find and employ people whose job it is to do that, to then create that embed that within that sort of business processes.
[Ryan Knuppel]
Amazing answer. You sound like you know what you’re talking about. So I’ll give you the answer.
Thank you for that robust answer. That was a great answer. So, okay, so you dove into starting a business a couple years ago.
It’s not always easy. What have been maybe the biggest challenge that you’ve come across? Maybe just in business, it doesn’t have to be product, it can just be business in general.
But you know, diving in and starting your own business, what’s one of the biggest challenges that you’ve come across?
[Henry Newman]
What’s the biggest challenge that you’ve faced or are facing currently? So that’s pretty tough. You know, you’ve got to, when we’re not, you know, we’re not a business that’s got, took on investment from day one and things like that.
So we’re, so you know, it’s your, my money on the line. So it makes you think about things, makes you think about things. And then probably specifically to sporting risk, a big challenge is when you’ve been using data to bet, it’s like 99% of everything that you’re doing, or 90% of everything you’re doing is about decision making.
So it’s all that’s driven and then you’re obviously executing this. When you’re serving customers, that’s just one component of it and making a team understand how important the operational procedures are, servicing the clients, being polite, responding quickly, solving problems quickly, innovating, pulling all of those pieces together has probably been the biggest learning curve for the team as a whole as a business. So I’m just going to include myself in that.
Certainly in the early, in the early stages, because you don’t, until you’ve seen behind the curtain in terms of all the components that were involved for these random numbers appearing on the front of an operator’s website, you would have no idea the level of complexity that’s involved in making sure that it gets there and how when the smallest thing goes wrong, it breaks, it breaks everything. So that’s, that was probably a big challenge for a six to nine month period when you go from one client to, say, 10 clients in a short period of time, and suddenly you’ve got all these different requirements that are coming into you. Most of them new, you’re like reacting on the fly, you’ve got to deliver it because these are multimillion or in some cases billion dollar businesses that are reliant on you for a portion of their handle.
And if it’s not happening, they’re coming to you being like, why?
[Ryan Knuppel]
Yeah. I think a lot of listeners can probably relate to your first point that you made in the, in the challenges, you know, I think it’s, it’s amazing actually how mental entrepreneurship can be like, you know, the, you build an amazing product, nobody’s buying it, but you know, it’s a great product. So, you know, what am I doing here?
Am I building up? It’s, it’s such a mental game, right? Like, inside of the game, it’s a mental game, especially when you own it, and you’re the one that’s like responsible for everything.
So I think a lot of people will be able to relate to that point. And, you know, just being able to fight through that to get to that next phase, right? Get to that phase where you have money coming in, and then it feels much better.
You don’t like this phase where money’s going out, money’s not coming in. So thank you for that point. Because I think there’s a lot of people that maybe get stuck in that phase and just can’t quite get out of it.
And so getting past that phase is important in entrepreneurship. I’m a true believer of that.
[Henry Newman]
Yeah, very much. So it’s, you know, for obviously, from a practical perspective, everybody’s got to make money. But also, if your own mental perspective, internal validation of what you’re doing, and things like that, you know, there’s no beat about the bush, you know, you’re starting a business, because you might be passionate about it.
But ultimately, there’s an ego component to everything you’re doing, you want to be doing something and do it well, you don’t want to be the one who failed at it. So, so that’s where the challenges come with that.
[Ryan Knuppel]
So what’s the future look like for Sporting Risk? Where are you guys headed? What’s the future look like?
[Henry Newman]
So, in terms of scaling, I mentioned earlier that we’re looking at, we’re not looking at, we’re just going through the process now of replicating departments essentially to go multi sports. That’ll be the big change for 2025. And we’re bending out our soccer department, which is where which will always be our flagship product will always be our foundation will always be the one that I will sort of hang from shout from the rooftops about, but also recognize the opportunities that exist outside of that.
But know that we’ve got a clear structure, got a clear structure in place that works for soccer, and how can we replicate that elsewhere, you know, I’m not going to lead, I will give ideas on our basketball modeling, but we will get expertise in people who know that game inside out, like I do soccer and do for our soccer products. So they’ll be the ones who are who are leading leading on that. And yeah, we’re looking at extending on that front so that that that sort of suite of products that I said sat that sits below your sort of match level markets is accessible, not just through soccer, but through multi sports, compatible with your bet builder.
So, you know, take your data rights from who you need to take your data rights from and take everything else from us is what I’ll be saying, I’ll be saying.
[Ryan Knuppel]
I love that. I love that. Yeah, everything else is everything, just everything.
Awesome. Well, let’s, I would like to ask this near the end of the show. What’s asked you might want to ask you might have of the audience, right?
There’s a bunch of other entrepreneurs, or maybe some investors, there may be other CEOs, there’s just people in the gaming space that tune into this show. What’s one ask you might have of the audience to listen to this? What’s an ask?
You mean in terms of if they were reaching out to me or just in general? What’s one thing you need? What’s one thing you’re looking for?
What’s one thing that maybe somebody listening could help with?
[Henry Newman]
Oh, I’m always interested to know what people think in terms of what directions the space headed in in terms of what’s going to be the next product or what will be the next technical technological innovation? You know, are we, you know, are we moving to the place of having, you know, voice recognition to be able to place your bets? How about the integration?
You know, we’ve already seen significant integration of media and streaming with all the operator websites. How are the media companies going to dovetail into that? Where’s AI sitting?
You know, when that when when when it does start to, you know, somebody does solve the predictive modeling component. But yeah, probably the first one would be the big one. I’m always interested to know there was clearly 2016, 2017 or so was maybe when the bet builder became a big mover.
And early, early of this decade was a start to be a bit more of a player prop movement. And you saw some big acquisitions of some of the US facing companies as well. So we’ve got our own ideas that we’re guessing at, you know, through making educated guesses and trying to build products that fit with that.
But all ideas, I think good ideas, if they’ve got a basis for the, you know, the reasoning behind it. So we’d love to hear any of them.
[Ryan Knuppel]
Well, Henry, I really love this show. I’d love to get to know you and what you’re doing with Sporting Risk. But for sake of time, I think we better wrap it up.
What did we miss? Any last words, any final words, anything you wanted to say that maybe we didn’t touch on? No, I’ve
